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welcome to Sputnik orbiting the world

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with me George Galloway and me Gayathri

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a week today a big demonstration in

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London will take place stand up against

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racism and fascism no to scapegoating

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immigrants no to Islamophobia no to

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anti-semitism co organisers of the event

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are unite against fascism

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a broadly based campaign which in dark

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days and fine have kept the flame of

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such ideals alive the March will take

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place through a backdrop of mass

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unemployment amongst ethnic minority

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youth in Britain a deluge of scare

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mongering in the gutter media in a Dutch

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auction of most political parties as to

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who can be meanest and most menacing

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towards minority communities as election

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fever mounts so do the fears of

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Britain's beleaguered minorities joining

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us now is a stalwart of anti-fascism in

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britain sabe de lo sabe thanks for

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coming on the sputnik will talk about

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the demonstration in a few minutes but

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the airwaves are becoming clogged up

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with race stories more usually than not

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anti-muslim stories but in this week

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Nigel Farage's extraordinary foray into

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demanding the repeal of race

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discrimination laws in the British

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workplace this is part of the backdrop

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to your demonstration isn't it of course

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I mean Suraj is some recent outburst is

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not borne out by the facts at all I mean

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one of the problems we've had is them

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since the coalition government came to

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power in 2010 is the abolition of

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monitoring the impact of legislation on

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minority communities and women so

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equality impact assessments have been

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abolished so it's impossible to actually

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ascertain proper figures of how

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austerity and other government measures

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have impacted on women minority

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communities people with disabilities and

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so on and so their drug figures might be

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thin on the ground but

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any fool North claimed that Farraj has

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made that racism in the workplace is a

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thing of the past that Britain has moved

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on you're a minority ethnic and a woman

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that's right what do you say to that

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well my experience is the exact opposite

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I've actually found in over the last

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five years certainly in the context of

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austerity a rise in racism I see people

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making funny comments racist comments on

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buses on public transport and things

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like that things I thought were a thing

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of the past and I've actually not

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experienced since I was a child growing

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up in the late 1980s so certainly there

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racism has been on the increase but also

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there were figures released I think by

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the Labour Party yesterday saying that

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unemployment amongst vme communities

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actually increased by 50 percent so the

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idea that racism in the workplace is a

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think for that reason PME communities in

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the police force oh so I think that is

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just not okay there on equality impact

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assessment but every other statistic in

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fact shows that racism is alive and

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kicking on the rise he's not of course a

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fascist Nigel Farage neither are you Kip

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but there are fascists in Britain

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menacing minority communities let's run

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across the horizont my assessment is

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that street racism in the form of for

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example the EDL has begun to dissipate

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the recent failure of the German import

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pegida at their demonstration in

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Newcastle was just that a real damp

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squib outnumber 10 15 to 1 by

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overwhelmingly non Muslim non minority

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ethnic white people from Newcastle is

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that your assessment are these people

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more a dangerous lone wolves than any

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kind of mass movement I think yes it is

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correct that the English Defence League

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and other similar movements like pegida

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as you mentioned the attempt to set up a

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British version of pegida is certainly

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dissipating in Britain and I think but I

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think that is because organisations like

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ourselves unite against fascism have

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actually spoke out against the English

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Defence League and argued consistently

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despite opposition saying that we must

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mobilize against them when they mobilize

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on the streets is important for

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anti-fascists Ferranti races to mobilize

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against them and I think we were right

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and I think that did actually defeat

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them that demoralized them we out

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mobilised them and we won that argument

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because some people thought that it was

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causing trouble and it was best to say

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at home when they come to town but I

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think had we done that I think the idea

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would have Snowboard into a much bigger

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because it's there is a clear

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relationship between out mobilizing them

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particularly in Tower Hamlets in 2011

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and there's a really big demonstration

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opposing the UDL that out mobilizing

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them and getting broad support for our

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demonstrations it really did have a

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knock-on effect on their morale and

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their ability to mobilize well I have no

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doubt that of the correctness of your

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line and the heroism of your work but

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it's also the case isn't it there has

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never been even in the 30s a mass

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appetite for fascism it speaks to the

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good sense of the great majority of the

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British public don't you think I I agree

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yes I don't think it really stands in

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the British tradition but I think it's

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important for people to speak out

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against them and mobilize against them

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because I think the danger is that one

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becomes complacent and thinks that you

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know it this isn't in the British

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tradition so we don't really need to

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worry about it I think had we not spoken

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out and stood up against them I think

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that they could have become a bigger

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force because we've seen across Europe

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there's a different story we've seen

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pegida albeit you know they've been out

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mobilised by the anti-racist and

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anti-fascist in Germany but to get that

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sized demonstrations you know 10,000

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is a worrying development absolutely we

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nonetheless have an ongoing problem

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partly below the radar we've got police

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guarding synagogues quite rightly

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because the danger of anti-semitic

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attacks they are clear and present we

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don't have police outside mosques

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admittedly the Muslim population is more

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than 10 times larger than the Jewish

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population but nonetheless there are

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ongoing attacks against Muslim property

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and against individual Muslims usually

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by one or two lone wolves how big a

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danger is all that I think it's a very

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big danger particularly after the

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Islamophobic response we've seen post

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the Paris attacks on the Copenhagen

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attacks we have seen hashtag kill or

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Muslims trend on Twitter we've seen

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making interventions such as Muslims are

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all responsible for this and should be

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held responsible for these attacks and

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we saw a complete media silence the

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complete opposite response to the Chapel

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Hill shootings in North Carolina where

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three Muslim students were shot dead

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it wasn't even covered in mass media

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despite the fact that it trended on

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social media and we don't see

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by people to hold all white people

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across the globe responsible for the

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actions of the the the gunmen or the

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terrorists that killed the three Muslim

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students the thought of it is ludicrous

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holding all white people responsible for

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for that shooting but this is what

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happens to the Muslim community over a

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billion people across the globe are made

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to feel responsible for the actions of a

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handful of terrorists this is despite

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condemnation widespread across the globe

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by Muslim people against these attacks

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and we have seen as you quite rightly

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point out attacks on mosques and attacks

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on individual Muslims and perhaps more

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worryingly so attacks on Muslim women

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wearing the hijab we see a lot of I

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think around 50% of or more than 50% of

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attacks on Muslims are actually on

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Muslim women and I think that's quite

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horrific for Muslim women to be facing

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violent attacks violent racist acts but

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also sexist because the perpetrators are

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mostly men so this is very worrying and

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you're right that the the state response

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isn't the same as attacks on Jewish

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communities and anti-semitism quite

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rightly there are police guarding why

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why aren't mosques and Muslim community

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organizations treating the same fashion

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this is what we need and I think you're

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right I think that the English Defence

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League and attempts by groups like

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pegida here in Britain to try and form

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themselves here will use not just the

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attacks in Paris in Copenhagen but the

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Islamophobic response by the state and

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the media and politicians to try and

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grow so it is very important that we

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don't become complacent and wherever

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they rear their ugly head that we

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mobilize against them tell us about the

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demonstration a week today well

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precisely because of the rise in

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Islamophobia the rising anti-muslim hate

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crime opposing Islamophobia and standing

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up against this hatred is a central part

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of the demonstration and we've received

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a very positive response by Muslim

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communities across the country who are

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saying they're mobile

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and coming along to the demonstration so

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it's very good it's formally supported

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by the Muslim Council of Britain along

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with a range of other Muslim

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organisations so that will all be a key

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part of the demonstration as well

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opposing anti-semitism I think it's very

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important shows the unity unity the

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other side of the coin is you say garter

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it's it's a real and present danger well

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Muslim communities at the moment is

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almost identical to the experience of

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Jewish communities in the early 20th

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century and in the 1930s the cartoons

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that we see depicting the Prophet

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Muhammad or are almost identical to the

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cartoons that one saw attacking the

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Jewish communities over 100 years ago so

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I think it's very important that we show

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unity against this form of hatred and

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unite the Muslim and Jewish communities

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who have both historically been attacked

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by fascists that's right where is it

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and two times that's it we're assembling

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outside BBC Portland Place and we'll be

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marching to Trafalgar Square and I'm one

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of the speakers you absolutely yeah well

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next Saturday but also take my

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metaphorical hat off to all the work

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that unites against fascism has been

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you really are heroes sabe darling thank

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you very much for that coming up after

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the break the father of all batsmen

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welcome back to Sputnik Matt and Nadine

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O'Connor are the public faces of one of

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the biggest civil rights campaigns in

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Britain fathers for justice not that

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so-called mainstream media still less if

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you were stuck inside the Westminster

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bubble politicians run scared of the

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idea that a child is entitled to both

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parents in their lives prisoners of the

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mother is always right mentality but

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mothers are not always right sometimes

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they're wrong and even wilfully so

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playing out their anger justify it or

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otherwise towards the father

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irrespective of the impact on the

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children's well-being

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feckless fathers abound in Britain men

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who walk out on their children again and

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again but millions of fathers are

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desperate to be closely involved in

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their children's lives and are precluded

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by the family court system from doing so

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it is a Gordian not trying to unravel it

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is Matt O'Connor and he joins us now

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Matt thanks for coming on both the

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Sputnik before we move on more

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specifically to your field it's not

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tangential I would argue the

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extraordinary decision of the Supreme

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Court this week to allow a woman more

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than 20 years after their divorce to

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file a claim for a financial settlement

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against the man they finally divorced

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more than two decades ago or do you

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think it is tangential well it is it's

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absolute up and a whole approach that

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the legal system takes two men and two

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fathers which is effectively George's to

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is to reduce the state of cash points

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it's like going on a Saturday night and

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putting your car into machine and the

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cash just keeps coming I mean it's a

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dream scenario but it reflects badly

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I think this judgement on the British

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justice system it's it's an outrageous

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judgment even by their own pitifully low

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standards

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basically says that this guy is a

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cashpoint not just when he was married

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but a cash point for life and this is a

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woman who is a grown woman clearly can

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look after herself clearly can't be

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responsible for herself

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clearly can provide for herself she has

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no dependencies so this is a very

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serious and worrying judgement I think a

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lot of men we're running scared now and

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very very concerned that this basically

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opens up some serious doors and to

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potential future claims it's just like

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infantilization of women isn't it the

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idea that in the 21st century four

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decades after the marriage has ended

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that somehow they're dependent upon a

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man and

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you swim into the status of victims and

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two states have been dependents and I

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think the the idea behind feminism that

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women would be empowered to stand and

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Durante fate to be responsible for their

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actions and I think this idea somehow

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that that isn't the case is

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fundamentally wrong and I think we need

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to we step back from the issues and and

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and look at the whole you shouldn't say

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why is it that fathers are still seen in

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law as being cash points well let's turn

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to that subject I have become grimly

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familiar with this system and I

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represent many people one just last

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Saturday for example came in to see me

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showed me all the paperwork that the

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child maintenance service has been

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taking a very substantial amount of

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money from him every month against which

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there's no meaningful appeal the figures

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are laid down there's no flexibility and

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so on but the key point is that he has

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not seen the child in question for seven

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years

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despite courts regularly saying he ought

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to have access to the child the mother

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has simply refused and there seems to be

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no meaningful mechanism by which his

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rights are come back to that point his

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rights are the child's right to see him

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can be respected yes and this is not an

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unusual case this is this is common

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stuff yeah I've got a friend of mine

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whose daughter was taken out of the

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jurisdiction to Scotland he's a train

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driver he's paid I think so in a region

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forty five fifty thousand pounds over

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the last ten years

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the girls now fourteen and it's an

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outrage I've got another friend of mine

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who who spent over fifty thousand pounds

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trying to see his daughter to get caught

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all his I enforce the CSA comes along

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cleaned out his bank account taking this

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money friends take his passport took his

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driving license they have craze I

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additional powers the CSA all the child

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maintenance service as they now call it

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these are really serious issues that if

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the coin was flipped and reversed and

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this was happening to mothers there

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would be a national outcry about it and

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that's our point about this is the the

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gender apartheid that applies to people

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like me because basically why we're male

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that somehow we're at a top of the tree

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whereas in reality as the author Warren

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fowl said there was a glass cellar where

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where men are kept because if you look

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at it we have we sir size is the biggest

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killer of men and the age of 45 we're

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more likely to be homeless more likely

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to be unemployed more likely be subjects

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of violence more like to be incarcerated

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and more likely to be murdered on many

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many many levels men and the issues

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related to men and men's health

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I just really aren't paid any Jews

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serious attention by our political

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classes and it is indeed ironic let me

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go back to a dichotomy I glanced at in

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my last question it is the fundamental

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principle of the Children's Act that

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it's the children that has rights not

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the parents the problem with that is

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that arrow Gates or Dara gates to

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someone else namely a judge in a secret

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court because yes it's not opposite

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ility public one may not discuss in

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public any of these cases it gara gates

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to a judge the right to decide what the

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children's interest is now I actually

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questioned that in principle I'm a

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father by the grace of God many times

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over I have rights in my view to see my

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children whether a judge thinks children

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have an interest or a case for seeing me

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what it what's your take on that what

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taking it is very very simple there's a

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small thing called the Universal

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Declaration of Human Rights that

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enshrines everybody's rights

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it's a family life that's our starting

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point that's what everybody signed up to

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yes course child has rights but to say

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that fathers have no eyes it's an

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outrage and as you rightly say we have

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an unelected unaccountable unsecured

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issue operating in complete secrecy that

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determines what the best interest of a

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child is now the thing is about this

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best interest of a child argument is a

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wicked wicked to see the lies at the

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heart of a rotten and corrupt family

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justice system I tell you why because

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nobody has kept any records on the

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outcomes the children who have been for

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the family justice system this is not

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based on evidence this is based on what

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the judge thinks the Charles best

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interest is and as we've seen with four

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million fatherless children in this

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country now with all the social

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conscious consequences that flow from

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that the family courts are fundamentally

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abusive and out of control and we

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legalize Cagefighting

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and we need to have a proper review and

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inquiry into their operation met since

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we last interview you they cut down the

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legal aid in Family Court it must have

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had a tremendous effect on fathers and

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the children

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yes it's had perhaps a less of an effect

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on farmers can many fathers didn't

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qualify for legal aid but what it has

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done is reduced the family courts to

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legalize cash fighting where most of the

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people go into the system are not

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legally represented and so you're

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literally pitching parent against parent

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to prove you're the best parent is you

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have to prove you're the worst is I

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always say courts are for criminals not

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families this is not a place for any

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family to be adjudged let alone by a 70

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or 80 year old judge who's got a public

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school boy from Eton clicking his false

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teeth as I've seen them do regularly in

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courts operating in secrecy and I think

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we need a complete review at a family

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justice system so we have a proper

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accountable fair and balanced system of

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family justice

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supported by a presumption what I

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believe why campaign for a presumption

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of 50/50 shared parenting so we have a

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quality proper quality for the system

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some who says to me well why would you

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start with 50/50 equalities like

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pregnancy you can't be a little bit

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pregnant you either have it or you don't

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yeah you should start from that

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presumption there are many cases in

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which that 50/50 would be altered of

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course but the presumption should be

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50/50 by the way the cuts in legal aid

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issue is worse of a missus or than you

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stated because the one criterion that

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you still can get legal aid is if you

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allege that there has been domestic

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violence and mothers who claim there was

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domestic violence get legal it so you

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have a situation where my constituents

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sometimes inarticulate sometimes

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undereducated certainly under-qualified

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are up against qualified and polished

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barristers who are being paid for by the

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state but the father is there left to

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his own devices how unfair is that yeah

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it was always the case to some extent

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there was always a case where you a

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mother would qualify for legal aid if

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you tick the box that says there's been

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abuse now figures with domestic violence

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Lobby abuse these days can constitute

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the financial abuse which is dispute

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over credit cards emotional abuse

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arguing in the car bat we're going on

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the map yeah arguing discussions like

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that so it's not just related advice but

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also every father is now risk assessed

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so calf casts the court welfare service

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collect soft evidence which is

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arguments in the household between

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mother and father and hard evidence

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which is there's been police reports to

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complain to the police but every

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father's risk assessed because they say

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where it is safe to do so

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contact can take place where it's safe

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to do so so the presumption George is

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that you and me are inherently dangerous

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to our children and that assumption

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doesn't apply to mother it doesn't apply

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to mother's new boyfriend

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it's a grotesquely unfair and

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prejudicial based solely on our gem

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don't get me started on cough gasps

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Marge O'Connor father's for justice

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I salute you and now it's your turn to

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tell us what you think through the

540
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portals of social media what's rattling

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Gayatri well in response to Nigel

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Farage's outrageous comments on racial

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discrimination in the working place

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marcia brown responses just another hair

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ball policy belts out to satisfy the

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knuckle draggers when i put out the

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article about the woman getting them the

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right to sue on the divorce

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yes matter Supreme Court lots of

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responses most of them agree that it's

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not really fair both men and women by

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the way Craig Hill says after 20 years

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since she remarried going to be an open

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season for any woman to take ex-husbands

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to courts wanting payouts that's all

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have you got time for this week which

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alas means that's the end of the show

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and almost the end of the sputnik join

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us next week for the very last orbit why

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stay in touch with us on Twitter RT

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underscore Sputnik or Facebook its put

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makeup on Russia today it's goodbye from

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me gaiety and for me George Galloway

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it's been marvelous